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Is CPU Tctl value is still a Tdie value on Ryzen?
#1
Hi Martin! Appreciate your work on the project!
I would like to clarify your post https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-Ryze...6#pid13856 where you say that CPU Tctl is basically a Tdie for Ryzens.
Is it still the case? For 2700 series too? As i have one and this specific value bothers me at 80 degress during low-to-medium workloads. Should we still subtract 20 degrees from that value?
Thanks in advance.
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#2
That depends on particular model and Tctl=Tdie only if the CPU doesn't use an offset (Tctl_offset).
If you see in sensors a "CPU (Tctl/Tdie)" value, it means they are same. Otherwise there will be 2 values shown Tctl and Tdie.
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#3
(05-25-2018, 11:48 AM)Martin Wrote: That depends on particular model and Tctl=Tdie only if the CPU doesn't use an offset (Tctl_offset).
If you see in sensors a "CPU (Tctl/Tdie)" value, it means they are same. Otherwise there will be 2 values shown Tctl and Tdie.

My cpu is 2700x, motherboard msi x470 m7. In HWINFo (latest release) there indeed two separate values for Tctl/Tdie. I also havn't touched any settings/options in it.
In BIOS cpu vcore set to 1.325 and cpu multi to 41. LLC level 1 shows in HWINFO that those voltages stay the same under load. 
It just feels strange to have 80+ Tctl reading at 1.325 during light workload (about 30% on all cores).
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#4
You see Tctl and also Tdie and they show same values? That's strange, can you please attach the HWiNFO Debug File ?
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#5
(05-25-2018, 12:22 PM)Martin Wrote: You see Tctl and also Tdie and they show same values? That's strange, can you please attach the HWiNFO Debug File ?

Sure. It was too large for attachment so i uploaded on my google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rfpFmGV...a6kNG/view

Here is the screenshot during Cinebench: https://i.imgur.com/77ZNdtc.png

In the past i used program called realtemp, manually set Tdie there according to 4690k specifications and it was showing 64-66 degrees under load. But here with this new ryzen 2700x i'm a bit uncomfortable with one of the sensors (which you say is the most important one on zen chips) beeing 88 degrees.
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#6
I see a 10C difference between Tctl and Tdie , which is correct for 2700X. So your real temperature is 78 C on the screenshot (Tdie).
Ryzen 2xxx series are just hotter and require better cooling.
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(05-25-2018, 06:17 PM)draked0g Wrote:
(05-25-2018, 12:22 PM)Martin Wrote: You see Tctl and also Tdie and they show same values? That's strange, can you please attach the HWiNFO Debug File ?

Sure. It was too large for attachment so i uploaded on my google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rfpFmGV...a6kNG/view

Here is the screenshot during Cinebench: https://i.imgur.com/77ZNdtc.png

In the past i used program called realtemp, manually set Tdie there according to 4690k specifications and it was showing 64-66 degrees under load. But here with this new ryzen 2700x i'm a bit uncomfortable with one of the sensors (which you say is the most important one on zen chips) beeing 88 degrees.

ok i own a 2700x i have a gigabyte x470 hers the thing u need to manully set your soc vcor and your cpu cvore I SEEN 1.525 with the core boost and xfr on TURN that shit off xfr was not easy to foind on the gigybyte x40 aorurs 5 wifi so gl with that it dose an strange auto overclocking to hit that 4.3 ish and is spickes way to high with thous things enabled one fore thing i dont know what board u have mine when u change the ram speed omg the soc votage gose craxy at 3000 mehs and if u r already in the + for voltage it stacks and it dosent tell u unless u look my soc was at like 1.32 or 1.35 idk it was all bad abouted that shit. sorry for bad spelling i ant fixin it lol gl
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