Z77X-D3H/Z77X-UP5

RE: Z77X-D3H

CPU 4.5 GHz value in Sensors OK ,but in Summary wrong (always show 5.9 Ghz):

http://i10.aijaa.com/b/00279/9947673.jpg

Another thing is VTT.
Set in BIOS 1.14V (or any other value rather then default 1.05V),upon boot in Windows still show 1.05V.
Open ET6 (1.14V) and increase/decrise a notch, value show correctly (AIDA64 same).

Upon boot in Windows (4.7 GHz,VTT set in BIOS 1.14V):
http://i6.aijaa.com/b/00272/9947809.jpg

Decrise with ET6 to 1.12V:
http://i6.aijaa.com/b/00837/9947812.jpg
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Ok, will check both.
But not sure about VTT. Does it mean when you change value in BIOS, it's not reflected in HWiNFO, but if you change it in ET6 then it's well reflected ?
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Hm, the VTT sensor value really behaves strange. I don't know whether it's completely invalid and I should remove it, or leave. HWiNFO just reads the input and I was assuming it might be VTT.

Also a question about the Max Turbo ratio. Is the 59x value displayed immediately after opening the summary? In the main window the value seems correct (38x).
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Martin said:
Hm, the VTT sensor value really behaves strange. I don't know whether it's completely invalid and I should remove it, or leave. HWiNFO just reads the input and I was assuming it might be VTT.

Also a question about the Max Turbo ratio. Is the 59x value displayed immediately after opening the summary? In the main window the value seems correct (38x).
It is Vtt value,as I change with ET6 and after show correct.
This 5.9 Ghz show constant when I increase CPU multi.
I will restart and set default in BIOS now.

Edit:
Default (all on Auto except RAM):
http://i1.aijaa.com/b/00882/9947985.jpg


Martin said:
Ok, will check both.
But not sure about VTT. Does it mean when you change value in BIOS, it's not reflected in HWiNFO, but if you change it in ET6 then it's well reflected ?
Yeah,
set in BIOS let say VTT 1.10V and is not reflected in HWiNFO and AIDA64 till I open ET6,which show correctly and chage value in ET6 up or down.
After this both HWiNFO and AIDA64 show correct,but till next reboot.

Edit:
From default setting,chage in BIOS to 4.7 GHz setting,in Windows show strait correct VTT (!).
http://i1.aijaa.com/b/00192/9948052.jpg

Note:
Since many types of CHiL's PWM, please refer to this X79-UD3 In Depth Circuit Analysis review:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...eview-LN2-Testing-Guide&p=5081371#post5081371
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

How have you increased the CPU multiplier, in BIOS or using some tool?
When the summary shows 59x, does the main window (tree) under CPU show the same?
I can't find a bug in HWiNFO showing max turbo ratio yet, so the value reported might be correct.
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

CPU multi increased only in BIOS.
Set all in BIOS (e.g. VTT 1.12V) and boot in windows.
With ET6 (showing correct VTT voltage) just "bump" sensors page in HWiNFO and AIDA64.

Summary and main window(tree) show always 59x,once you increase CPU multi.:
http://i6.aijaa.com/b/00197/9949717.jpg
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Can you please attach a Debug File when it reports 59x ?
Do other tools like ThrottleStop for example confirm this setting ?
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Martin said:
Can you please attach a Debug File when it reports 59x ?
Do other tools like ThrottleStop for example confirm this setting ?
Attached is debug file with 45x ,C1E,EIST... all enabled.
Will disable this and check with TrottleStop.


Here is with C1E and EIST disabled (and debug file 45x att.):
http://i6.aijaa.com/b/00818/9949907.jpg
 

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RE: Z77X-D3H

The attached debug files confirm, that Max Turbo ratios are set to 59x for 1-4 cores active, so HWiNFO reports correct values.
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Hmm, might be a BIOS bug.
Raw register content = 0x3B3B3B3B, which when you translate to decimal, you get 59x for all cores active.
Have you tried ThrottleStop? That should display the Turbo settings as well and allow to change them (in case the register is not locked by BIOS).
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Disabling Intel Turbo Boost in BIOS......same.

Btw,
ET6 and BIOS reading PCH temp (62C).
Where is this in HWiNFO? (Temperature 2 ,but reading is offset?)

9953975.jpg
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Confirm today that VTT voltage more then default is BIOS bug.

So, AIDA64 and HWiNFO show correct value of 1.056V in sensors page.
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Hard to say about the PCH temperature, I'd need more shots of different values to determine if there's a correlation between ET6 value and Temperature 2 for example.
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Martin said:
Hard to say about the PCH temperature, I'd need more shots of different values to determine if there's a correlation between ET6 value and Temperature 2 for example.
The same is true for SIV
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Martin said:
Hard to say about the PCH temperature, I'd need more shots of different values to determine if there's a correlation between ET6 value and Temperature 2 for example.
Motherboard has only 3 temperatures as shown bellow in PC Health Status,so I asume about my status.

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RE: Z77X-D3H

Yep, but I'm not sure if the PCH might be sourced from a different sensor. The PCH has an internal thermal sensor, however its internal registers don't seem to provide a valid value. It might be sampled by PCH and pushed to the SIO chip.
Best would be to create about 3 shots of HWiNFO + ET6 showing different PCH temperature values to check if there's a real correlation and what exact offset needs to be applied (linear, etc.).
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Martin said:
Yep, but I'm not sure if the PCH might be sourced from a different sensor. The PCH has an internal thermal sensor, however its internal registers don't seem to provide a valid value. It might be sampled by PCH and pushed to the SIO chip.
Best would be to create about 3 shots of HWiNFO + ET6 showing different PCH temperature values to check if there's a real correlation and what exact offset needs to be applied (linear, etc.).

OK,Martin
I make 3 shots with HWiNFO + ET6 ,in ~30 min interval as follows:

8.30 p.m.

9957272.jpg


9.00 p.m.

9957281.jpg


9.30 p.m.

9957283.jpg


Will make one more shot in 2 hours time (just "ON" aircon in my room).......

11.15 p.m.

9958179.jpg
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Thanks, it seems there's indeed a +18C offset required. I'll add this to HWiNFO.
 
RE: Z77X-D3H

Martin said:
Thanks, it seems there's indeed a +18C offset required. I'll add this to HWiNFO.

Thanks Martin.
So,only 59x turbo is still unknown source.
 
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